Minutes 78-09-05MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR MEETING
OF THE CYPRESS CITY COUNCIL
HELD
September 5, 1978
The adjourned regular meeting of the Cypress City Council
was called to order at 8:12 p.m. on Tuesday, September 5,
in the Assembly Room of the Cypress Community Center, 5700
Orange Avenue, Cypress, California; Mayor Donald Hudson
presiding.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Councilmembers hacayo, MacLain, Rowan~ Hudson
Evans
Also present were City Manager/City Clerk Darrell Essex.
This was a joint meeting with the Cypress Recreation and
Park Commission and Youth League presidents, and Chairman
Simmons called the meeting of the Recreation and Park Com-
mission to order at 8:17 p.m. Those commissioners in
attendance were:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Boykin, Christensen, Hamilton,
Simmons
Commissioners Swain, Yates
Also present were Recreation and Park Director Charles E. Bryant,
and staff member Ronald Thomas.
Youth league representatives in attendance were: Cy Milton~ PPesident~ Tri-Cities Soccer
Dan McCormack~ Representative. A.Y.S.O. Soccer
Shirley Rosenkranz, representative of Cypress Federal
Little League
Bob Larkin, President, Cypress Pony Baseball
Roger Ia~otti, President, Cypress Pop Warner Football
Christel Santo, Pepresentative of Pop Warnen Football
Absent were Pepresentatives from Cypress Girls Softball h~agne
and A.Y.S.O. Soccer - Region 154.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Mayor Hudson led the pledge to tbp flag.
CONSIDERATION OF FEES AND CHARGES FOR USE OF ATHLETIC FACILITIES:
Discussion of the topic was opened by Mayor Ht~dson.
Councilman Lacayo questioned what the concerns were of
the youth league presidents and the effects that the proposed
fees and charges would have on the leagues.
Roger Iannotti, President of Pop Warner Football League, 5512
Mildred Circle, Cypress, stated that Pop Warner does not want
to pay the fees, but that these fees are fair and equitable.
He also stated that he and members of his board were concerned
that there was double taxation.
Mayor Hudson reitereated what Councilman Lacayo had said, that
this is a rare opportunity to meet face-to-face, not only with
the commission, but the special committee, and hear their input
of the proposed fees and charges. He further explained that,
because of the effects of Proposition 13, there were certain
programs that needed to have a revenue base.
Cypress Pony Baseball League President Bob Larkin, 9346 Gregory
Street, Cypress, said, as a taxpayer, he is 100% behind this
concept of paying for what you use; but, as a league president,
he is 100% opposed, although they have time to adjust as their
registration time is not until after January.
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Shirley ResenkPans~ Cypress Federal Little League representative,
6~64 Anguilla Avenue, Cypress, agreed with Hr. Larkin's state-
ment, especially on the part of registration, when they could
adjust their fees at that time.
Roger Iannotti, Cypress Pop Warner League President, stated
that they dit not fix into their registration a fee for this
incrnase this year, since the fee had not yet been fixed. He
stated further that it might be a hardship for them to collect
additional fees.
COUNCILWOMAN EVANS ARRIVED AT 8:28 P.M.
A question was asked by Hayer Hudson--one of the major concerns
the Council had was that everyone had the same numbers and
fees and that they understood the process and methodo!egy of
the fee structure.
The Director of Recreation and Parks reported that, at the
direction of the Council, the youth leagues in the Cypress
Recreation and Park District have been meeting since April.
There have been nine official ACUAF meetings of which seven
of these, the major topic was the proposed fees.
Councilman Lacaye asked all the leagues if they understood
what the fee structure was, and all agreed that they did.
Hr. Cy Milton, President of Tri-Cities Soccer Club, 5804
La della Way, Cypress, had some questions on scheduling and
wanted to know how the fees would be paid. The Director
explained the process.
Another question relative to scheduling came from the Pop
Warner Football; primarily, their concern was whether they
would be held to this particular schedule for next year.
Chairman Simmons stated that A.Y.S.0. and Pop Warner had
been meeting with the Recreation and Park District as to
adjustment of equitable field use under the lights. Staff
member Thomas confirmed that a solution had been worked out.
Demit:eek Palumbo, 5491 Belle Street, Cypress, felt that
this is a form of double taxation and this is nickle and diming
the parents ~o give. It was his opinion that the Council should
look at not charging the leagues, and adults should pay their
fair share.
Commissioner Boykin explained that it would not be equitable
if one type of group was charged, and youth leagues were not.
The Recreation and Park District is dealing with all forms of
recreation and all age groups (seniors to tiny-tots), and it
must be equitable for all.
Hr. Downey, 10371 Whirlaway Street, Cypress, represented an
adult sic-pitch softball team, and expressed concern for the
amount of charges and wanted an explanation as to the reason
why the adult fees went up 80%. Staff will respond in a
communique at a later time.
The Mayor explained that the fees were the same hourly rates
used for both youth sports leagues and adult sports leagues,
with the addition in adult sports of a lighting attendant.
Mr. Thomas said that this was the basis for calculating all
prime users except reserved general public, and they pay a
much higher rate.
In response to an inquiry by Mayor Hudson if this proposal
included waiving the snack bar fees, the Director replied it did.
He asked the leagues what effect that would be on the yearly
cost to them if the 5% of the gross receipts requirement was
waived. Cypress Pop Warner representative, President Iannotti,
responded, "by the adiustment in the schedule of field use
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and the waiving of that fee, ~he approximate cost would be
reduced by $600, ~nd the yearly cost would be in the ne{gh-
L/orhood of $~300."
Cypress Federal Little League arid Pony Baseball representatives
agreed that the yearly cost is going to be considerably less.
Colmcilman Lacayo then asked what increased
per player for Pop Warner, and Mr. Tannotti
it would be approximately $2 per player.
coR~ would be
responded ~hat
A five minute recess was called at 9:05 p.m. The meetinx
was called back to order at 9:10 p.m. with all members pPes,,n~ .
A motion was made, seconded and adopted by the followin~ w~!~~
to accept the Recreation and Park Commission's recommendation
and adopt the fee structure, which represents an averave cost
of maintaining all athletic fields and provides for a trial
period of issuing a light key to the president off the using
youth lea~ues~ also, that the 5% of gross receipts of the
snack bar facility agreement be deleted:
AYES: B COUNCILMEHBERS: Evans, Laeayo,
Rowan & Ht~dson
NOES: 0 COUNC ILMEMBER S: None
ABSENT: 0 COUNCILMEHBFRS: None
~!acLair/,
Co~H~cilwoman Evans requested that the leae. ues understand that
thC Recreation and Park District staf¥ will try to reduce [he
cost in any way possible and she gave examples o£ us{hR work
~tudy students or CETA aides as alternatives.
Councilman Lacayo requested that another meeting be held
'!DJOURNHENT:
On a motion duly made and seconded, Mayor Hudson de(let.ed
Cily Council meetin~ adjourned at 9:~2 p.m. until the
Pe?.ulaP meetin{ ef September 11, 1078 at ~:30 p.m. in hhe
Council Chambers.
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