Minutes 1977-08-18MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF
THE CYPRESS PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD
August 18, 1977
The regular meeting of the Cypress Planning Commission was called
to order at 6.35 p m on Thursday, August 18, 1977 in the Cypress
City Council Chambers 5275 Orange Avenue Cypress, California,
Chairman Robert Van Allen presiding
PRESENT.
ABSENT•
Commissioners Adler, Friedmann, Mullen, Partin
and Van Allen
None
Also present were Brian Hawley, Planning Director, Don Lamm,
Assistant Planner, Frank Dalesandro, Office Engineer, and
Elizabeth Strauss, Deputy City Attorney
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE. Commissioner Mullen led the pledge to the
f lag
MINUTES•
It was moved by Commissioner Friedmann, seconded by Commissioner
Mullen and unanimously carried to approve the August 4 minutes
as corrected.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS.
1 Extension of Time for Conditional Use Permit #75-6 - Mr. Ken
Beideman.
The Planning Director presented a memorandum dated August 10 indi-
cating the applicant requested an extension of the use permit to
allow the construction of 104 motel units on a 1.4 acre parcel of
land in the 5600 block of Lincoln Avenue The original plans
proposed kitchenettes in 42 units and the applicant now proposes
kitchenettes in all units
Mr Ken Beideman 900 S San Gabriel San Gabriel architect
stated the lender preferred kitchenettes in all units He felt
a motel was the best use because of the shape of the land and
stated the parcel size would restrict commercial use
It was moved by Commissioner Mullen, seconded by Commissioner
Partin and unanimously carried to approve a one year extension
of time for C U P 475-6 subject to all conditions attached to
the original approval of August 21 1975 and with the under-
standing that the plot plans and elevations will be the same
2 Site Plan Review - Constitution Savings & Loan (Continued)
The Planning Director presented the plot plans and elevations
for Constitution Savings and Loan to be located on the south
side of Ball Road, west of Valley View, behind the Albertson's
shopping center He stated the plans have been changed in that
the building will be moved further east away from the adjacent
dwellings and a minimum eight -foot -wide landscaping strip will
be provided between the uses He stated grading plans and
landscaping plans will be submitted and he suggested adding a
condition that plans for the signing program shall be submitted
for review and approval by the Commission prior to issuance of
the certificate of occupancy
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Mr Ron Aday, representing the Crowell Corporation, 150 S. Los
Robles, Pasadena stated the parking stalls are 17 feet in length
to the wheelstop and cars can overhang the landscaping by 3 feet
The Commission discussed the circulation, driveway access and
possibility of providing access to this property from the alley
at the rear of the Albertson's center
Chairman Van Allen asked if anyone wished to speak in regard
to this matter. No one wished to speak Mr Aday stated he
was unaware of the conditions and Chairman Van Allen continued
the matter to allow the applicant to read the conditions
3 Landscape Review - Conditional Use Permit ##76-18 - Butler
Housing.
The Planning Director presented the landscape plans and a colored
rendering and described the landscaping program for the commercial
center and condominium project located on the south side of
Lincoln Avenue opposite Sumner Place He stated irrigation and
landscaping plans will be required when the final building plans
are submitted for the remainder of the commercial buildings
Commissioner Adler asked if the applicant considered an under-
ground irrigation system
Mr Richard Roy, 1027 N. Coast Highway, Laguna Beach, repre-
senting the applicant stated they prefer the conventional
irrigation system since the underground system is new and there
have been problems with installation and inconsistent watering
It was moved by Commissioner Mullen seconded by Commissioner
Friedmann and unanimously carried to approve the landscape and
irrigation plans with the understanding that additional land-
scaping plans will be submitted for Commission review and
approval when the final building plans are submitted for the
commercial buildings
In regard to Administrative Item #2, Mr Aday questioned
Conditions #4 and 6 regarding street lights and street light
energy charges, Condition #7 regarding Ball Road street improve-
ments, and Condition #26 regarding construction of the Ball Road
raised median island The Planning Director stated the appli-
cant was responsible for half the cost of the median and that
this could be included in the condition He recommended the
deletion of Condition #30 since it was a duplication of Condi-
tion #15
Mr Aday stated the applicant accepted the conditions
It was moved by Commissioner Friedmann seconded by Commissioner
Adler and unanimously carried to approve the site plan for
Constitution Savings and Loan subject to the following conditions•
1 The development of the subject property shall be in con-
formance with the plot plans and elevations as submitted
and reviewed and approved by the Planning Commission
2 Drainage fees shall be paid in accordance with the Master
Plan of Drainage
3 Drainage shall be solved to the satigfaction of the City
Engineer A grading plan shall be submitted for approval
4 Street lights shall be installed per City standards
5 All secondary and primary utility services shall be under-
ground
6 Advance street light energy charges shall be paid
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7 Ball Road shall be dedicated and fully improved with curb
gutter, sidewalk, driveway, paving, etc , in accordance
with the Master Plan of Streets and Highways
8 Street trees (15 gallon) forty feet (40 ) on center shall
be installed along streets in conformance with the street
tree policy of the Public Works Department The type of
trees shall be as required under the Townscape and Urban
Design Element of the General Plan
9 Soil in planting areas, including trees, shall be tested by
a qualified agricultural laboratory to determine the organic
and chemical amendments for optimum growth for the plants
specified The test results shall include concentration
of nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium, pH, salinity, sodium
status and boron saturation extract Results of these
tests with recommendations of the agricultural laboratory
shall be furnished to the Public Works Department for
approval at least 30 days prior to planting date
10 Necessary fire hydrants shall be installed in accordance
with Fire Department requirements and City standards
11 Plan checking and inspection fees shall be paid in accordance
with City of Cypress Resolution No 1713
12 Developer shall conform to all applicable provisions of the
City Code
13 The sanitary sewer connection fee shall be paid by the
developer in accordance with Orange County Sanitation
District No 3, Resolution No 303
14 A retaining wall per City of Cypress standards shall be
constructed at the property line where the grade difference
is greater than twelve inches (12")
15 A bond shall be posted by the applicant to guarantee maint-
enance of the irrigation system so that it operates in a
manner for which it was designed and to guarantee maint-
enance of all plant materials in a healthy, growing condi-
tion, free of weeds and litter, for a period of not less
than twelve (12) months, to the specifications of City staff
16 The proposed driveways on Ball Road shall be signed for
"Right Turn Only" for traffic exiting onto Ball Road A
deed shall be recorded and shall be attached to the title
for this property dedicating all exit rights to Ball Road
from this development to the City of Cypress except for
right -turn movements from the proposed driveways
17 The location, width and type of driveways shall be subject
to the approval of the City Engineer The proposed driveway
on the westerly side of this parcel shall be a minimum of
30 feet (30') wide per City of Cypress Standard #207
18 All on-site drainage shall be conveyed to the street by
means of an undersidewalk drain per City of Cypress standards
19 A topograph of the area surrounding this development shall
be made to establish existing drainage flow patterns If
the existing natural flow of any adjoining parcel is across
the land of this development a drainage easement shall be
granted and drainage facilities provided for that property
to the satisfaction of the City Engineer
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20 On-site security lighting shall be arranged so that direct
rays will not shine on adjacent properties or produce glare
for street traffic
21 All existing public improvements at the development site
which are damaged, cracked, or otherwise below standard
shall be removed and replaced to the satigfaction of the
City Engineer
22 A minimum six-foot (6') high block wall measured from
the highest adjacent grade shall be maintained along
the westerly property line
23 Wheelchair and handicap access facilities shall be in-
stalled on-site and off-site in accordance with the State
of California and City of Cypress Building Department
standards
24 All roof -mounted equipment, such as heating and air condi-
tioning units shall be adequately screened from public
view subject to the approval of the City staff
25 The developer shall construct noise bafflers and/or
deflectors on all mechanical equipment mounted outdoors
to the satisfaction of the City staff
26 A raised median island shall be constructed on Ball Road
extending to Myra Avenue to prohibit left turns into
and out of parcel A bond shall be posted to guarantee
against any defects in materials or workmanship The
applicant/developer shall be responsible for one-half of
the cost of the construction of this median island
27 The decomposed granite used to cover the rear portion of
this parcel shall be approved by the City Engineer
28 A continuous physical barrier (i e 6" high concrete curb)
shall be constructed at a minimum distance of three feet
(3') from the base of all block walls exposed to vehicular
traffic to the satisfaction of the City Engineer Planting
may be installed in the area between the block wall and
the curb
29 Plans for the proposed landscape and irrigation system
shall be submitted for review and approval by the Planning
Commission Required landscape and irrigation systems
shall be installed prior to the issuance of a certificate
of occupancy for this use
30 Plans for the proposed signing program shall be submitted
for review and approval by the Planning Commission prior
to the issuance of a certificate of occupancy for this
project
Mr William Shaper, 9173 Ethel Street, Cypress, asked why the
Commission did not ask for public input on Administrative Item
#3. The Chairman stated it was not a public hearing matter
Mr Shaper asked how the landscaping plans could be approved
without having a restaurant tenant approved and he asked if
there was any indication as to what restaurant would be built.
The staff advised him that landscaping plans will be submitted
for Buildings "C" and "D" at a later date and that there was
still a possibility of 'Turkey and Stuff locating on the property
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Chairman Van Allen announced that it was time to conduct the
public hearings He opened the following hearings and continued
them until later•
AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE NO 77-1 - CONDOMINIUM
CONVERSIONS (Continued)
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO 77-16 - MS MARION CARTER
(Continued)
CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-17 - MR. PHILIP CHAPIRSON
AND MR JOSEPH LAKREC
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: There were no oral communications presented
at this time.
4 Landscape Review - Conditional Use Permit #76-20 - MEB
Investments
The Planning Director presented the landscaping and irrigation
plans and described the landscaping program for the 28 unit
condominium project located to the rear of the Lincoln Plaza
Shopping Center The staff recommended that the applicant
replace the Eucalyptus viminalis with another species of Eucalyp-
tus preferably Eucalyptus citriodora.
Mr Jim Gunn, representing MEB Investments, stated the appli-
cant agreed with the staff's recommended change of tree
It was moved by Commissioner Partin, seconded by Commissioner
Friedmann and unanimously carried to approve the landscape and
irrigation plans for C U P #76-20 subject to staff's recommen-
dation regarding replacement of the Eucalyptus viminalis tree
RECESS Chairman Van Allen called a recess at 8.05 p m The
meeting was called back to order at 8.20 p m with all Commis-
sioners present
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING RE. AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING
ORDINANCE NO 77-1 - CONDOMINIUM CONVERSIONS: Chairman Van
Allen announced that this was the time and place for the hearing
to consider a proposed amendment to the Zoning Ordinance for
possible amendments to the conditional uses and standards of
development for condominiums and conversions of existing struc-
tures into condominiums in the RM -20/A Residential Multiple
Family Zone. He opened the hearing and asked for the staff
report.
The Planning Director reported that the City Council on June 13
referred the proposed condominium conversion ordinance back to
the Commission for further consideration and requested that the
Commission also determine the desirability of allowing conversions
He stated the Commission received a copy of the staff's survey
of condominium regulations of other cities, a report on the impact
on Cypress' housing resulting from conversions, and a report
from the Daon Corporation He reported that no further written
or oral communications were received regarding this item and Daon
Corporation received a copy of the latest staff report He
stated the staff has been consistent in recommending that if
apartments are to be converted to condominiums they should meet
the existing building requirements for new condominium develop-
ment and specifically meet the requirements for independent
plumbing and electrical wiring and two one-hour fire walls
Chairman Van Allen asked if anyone wished to speak in favor of
changes to the ordinance as proposed
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Mr David Recupero, representing the Daon Corporation, 1400
Quail Street, Newport Beach, made a slide presentation showing
conditions at Cypress Townpark Apartments located north of Ball
Road and west of Holder which they wish to convert to condo-
miniums He stated with conversion they would upgrade the
landscaping, enclose trash containers and repair or replace
broken concrete and other deficiencies. He noted that this
is the only sizable apartment project built after adoption of
the new Zoning Ordinance and, therefore, meets more rigid
standards than older apartments He felt the project should
be considered separately He felt conversion would provide
moderate priced housing which complies with the goals of the
City's Housing Element Mr Recupero stated the proposed ord-
inance would make conversion of these apartments physically
and economically prohibitive and that the company's position
relative to the ordinance is outlined in their report submitted
to the City Council He suggested that, rather than adopt an
ordinance, the Commission should consider adopting a policy
statement on conversions which could be implemented through a
conditional use permit He presented a petition in support of
conversion of their project signed by residents in the area
The Planning Director indicated the petition conforms with
the City's petition ordinance
Commissioner Mullen made several comments regarding statements
in the Daon report which he disagreed with and Mr Recupero
responded to the comments Mr Recupero indicated the project
would have difficulty in meeting the requirements for two one-
hour firewalls, attached garages and for a sewer line outside
of the units
Commissioner Friedmann stated she agreed this was an appropriate
development for possible conversion but that the company's objec-
tion to the two one-hour firewalls and separate utilities con-
flicted with the major requirements of the ordinance She felt
upgrading of the units without meeting these requirements would
constitute the sale of apartments and would be unfair to potential
buyers and she felt moderate priced housing should not be sub-
standard housing Chairman Van Allen felt the upgrading of the
units was a normal responsibility of the owner and should not be
a trade-off for allowing conversion
Mr. Recupero described how the project would have difficulty in
meeting the two one-hour firewall and independent plumbing
requirements
Commissioner Adler asked what guarantees would be afforded
potential buyers of the units and Mr Recupero stated the
Department of Real Estate provides buyers with a document indi-
cating the dwelling is a conversion Chairman Van Allen indi-
cated he would not support adopting a policy statement in lieu
of an ordinance since a policy statement would be ambiguous
to developers and potential homeowners
Chairman Van Allen asked if anyone wished to speak in support
of the ordinance as recommended by the Planning Commission
Mr James Duncan, 9787 Rome Street, Cypress, stated he opposes
any conversion of apartments to condominiums and that the City
will experience trouble if they are allowed
Mr. William Shaper 9173 Ethel Street, Cypress, felt building
an extra wall in a unit instead of meeting the strict two one-
hour firewall requirement would still present a fire hazard
He noted that many persons cannot afford condominiums or single-
family homes and there is a need for apartments
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Mr Norm Osborn, 5792 Karen Avenue, Cypress, supported strict
standards for condominium conversions He felt if standards
are lowered for this application it would open the gate for
future requests for deviations from the ordinance He felt
potential buyers of conversions should be protected
Commissioner Adler suggested including in the ordinance a ratio
to determine how many conversions would be permitted The
Planning Director stated the City of Costa Mesa permits conver-
sions if apartment vacancies exceed a certain percentage and
the difficulty with this approach would be in maintaining statis-
tics He felt the City currently has a balanced and reasonable
housing stock which satisfies the objectives of the Housing
Element.
Chairman Van Allen continued the public hearing until later
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING RE: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO.
77-16 - MS. MARION CARTER Chairman Van Allen announced that
this was the time and place for the continuation of the public
hearing to consider a proposal to establish a nine -unit student
dormitory together with incidental off-street parking and land-
scaping on a parcel of land located at 6382 Orange Avenue in the
RM -20/A Residential Multiple Family Zone He opened the hearing
and asked for the staff report
The Assistant Planner summarized Staff Report #77-29 dated
August 12 describing the application and presented slides of
the property He stated a variance is requested to allow units
of 400 square feet rather than 750 square feet which is required
by the ordinance for apartment units He stated the applicant
submitted a conceptual plot plan at this time and if the request
is approved would submit final plot plans and elevations Staff
recommended approval of the application.
Ms. Marion Carter 811 S Webster, Anaheim, reported there is
a chain link fence along the west side of the property and a
block wall along the south side and she suggested building a
wood fence onthe east side. SShe inquired about the cost for a
fire hydrant and the staff estimated the cost at $550 00 Ms
Carter stated each dwelling unit would be over two garage spaces
She stated she felt major changes were not required to the exterior
of the existing building
Commissioner Friedmann felt it would be difficult to control who
occupies the units and if the units were occupied by older resi-
dents it would constitute substandard housing Chairman Van Allen
felt the unit size invited the doubling or tripling up of students
and was also concerned that the 50 foot parcel width created a
fire trap and difficulty in getting cars out of the property
He asked if anyone wished to speak in favor or in opposition to
the proposal. No one wished to speak in support or opposition
Commissioner Adler suggested constructing apartments which could
be used for dorm purposes Ms Carter felt dorms were a better
use of the property She reported she priced fencing and esti-
mated the building cost at $20 to $25/square foot She indicated
the rent would be about $150 to $175 She indicated she could
not afford to construct a block wall on three sides of the property
Commissioner Mullen expressed concern that the applicant was not
fully aware of all requirements. Commissioner Partin stated he
favored the project but suggested continuing the hearing until
the applicant investigates and resolves the condition requirements.
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The Planning Director pointed out that there is extensive land-
scaped screening on the east side of the property and a fence
may not be required here He stated the garages could be located
on the west lot line or set back five feet which would eliminate
the need for a block wall on the west
Commissioner Partin stated he opposed the one student per unit
restriction since it would be difficult to enforce and one student
probably could not afford the $175 rent Chairman Van Allen
stated he supported the intended use but had concerns about the
lot size, layout and the health hazard to occupants
It was moved by Commissioner Mullen and seconded by Commissioner
Friedmann to approve the concept of the proposal and continue the
public hearing until such time as the applicant wishes to submit
more detailed plans for the project
Commissioner Partin stated he did not favor the variance Com-
missioner Adler questioned whether a dorm was the best use of the
property and felt further study of the size and layout and more
detailed plans were necessary The Planning Director suggested
continuing the matter to allow the applicant to meet with staff
to resolve the issues Chairman Van Allen had reservations that
the 400 square foot units were too large
Mrs Vickie Evans, 9326 Cambridge, Cypress, indicated that nine
units did not conform with her concept of a dormitory which is
usually on campus and controlled by the school She stated there
was no way to control who occupies the units and felt students
would double -up to pay rent She recommended that the Commission
plan ahead and encourage larger dorm projects which include eating
facilities, and encourage the college to develop on -campus dorms
She felt approval of the concept may be construed as approval
of the project
Commissioners Mullen and Friedmann withdrew the motion and second
It was moved by Commissioner Mullen, seconded by Commissioner
Friedmann and carried, with Chairman Van Allen voting no, to
continue the hearing to the September 1 meeting
Chairman Van Allen stated he opposed the continuance because he
felt that regardless of the size of the units the proposal for
a dormitory on this particular property was inappropriate
PUBLIC HEARING RE: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT NO. 77-17 - PHILIP
CHAPIRSON AND JOSEPH LAKREC• Chairman Van Allen announced that
this was the time and place for the public hearing to consider
a proposal to establish a liquor store engaging in the off-site
sale of general alcoholic beverages to be located on a vacant
parcel of land at the northeasterly corner of Bloomfield Avenue
and Orange Avenue He opened the hearing and asked for the
staff report
The Assistant Planner presented Staff Report #77-28 dated August
11 describing the application. The applicant is requesting a
variance to allow a 10 foot setback from Orange Avenue where 25
feet is required by ordinance, and a zero setback from the east
property line where 20 feet is required. A 20 foot setback is
proposed from the north property line adjacent to the single-
family residences
The Planning Director read a communication from the Anaheim Union
High School District dated August 17 which protested the estab-
lishment of a liquor store within a quarter -mile radius of
Lexington Jr High School because the sale of liquor may endanger
the wellbeing of students passing on their way to school.
Mr. Lamm reported that staff received several telephone calls
from persons regarding the U -Tote -M store located across the
street in the City of Hawaiian Gardens who reported at least
three robberies have occurred there. He stated the Cypress Police
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Department had no opinion regarding the application and had no
basis for denial Mr Lamm presented slides of the subject
property
Commissioner Adler objected to the building being located on
the east property line and expressed concern about only one
entrance and one exit The Planning Director stated a second
access is not required with the 50 foot dimension of the building
He stated he was unaware whether the School District protest
represented the Board's action
Mr Philip Chapirson 3670 Aster Seal Beach the applicant,
reported on his experience in owning and managing neighborhood
shopping centers in other cities He reported he spoke to about
40 or 50 residents in the immediate area and most supported
the store and felt it would eliminate an eyesore and not harm
the area. He stated some of the objections were to the building
being located next to the swimming pool to the east, to heavy
traffic, or for religious reasons He felt locating the building
on the east property line would provide a buffer for the park
and pool. He stated a neighborhood shopping center will not
generate heavy traffic, the trash areas will be enclosed and
a five foot wide planter area is proposed along the north property
line which, with the 20 foot setback, will buffer the homes
He felt the 2 000 residential units within a half -mile radius
of the store would provide adequate support for the store.
He stated the liquor license which costs about $50,000 is
a considerable investment and they wish to construct an attrac-
tive high quality building The applicant stated their prices
are about 20% lower than 7 -Eleven stores. He stated store
hours would probably be 7 a m to 8 or 9 p m and 10 or 11
p m on week -ends He stated the building would be split -
face block with a tile roof and recessed lighting
Chairman Van Allen asked if anyone wished to speak in favor of
the application
Mr J Witt, 9573 Via Entrada, Cypress, felt there was no traffic
problem in the area and that residents of Tanglewood need a store
within walking distance and do not object to a liquor store He
stated the corner needs improvement and he did not feel there
was a problem with children congregating in the area. He felt
there would be less problems than at a larger store like Alpha
Beta
Mr. Clyde Crowder 4024 Selkirk Circle, Cypress supported the
zero setback on the east property line since the building wall
would serve as protection for the pool and park
RECESS: Chairman Van Allen called a recess at 11:45 p.m The
meeting was called back to order at 12 00 a m with all Commis-
sioners present
Chairman Van Allen asked if anyone wished to speak in opposition
Mrs DiAnne Shepherd 4036 Brighton Circle Cypress read and
submitted a petition containing 98 signatures which requested
denial of the liquor store on the basis that it would interfere
with residents' quiet enjoyment of their homes and the park and
pool to the east, and because of the proximity of Lexington and
Arnold Schools and four similar stores within one-half mile of
the subject property
Mr J Shepherd, 4036 Brighton Circle, stated his home abuts the
subject property and he opposes the sale of liquor for religious
reasons. He felt a liquor store does not provide an environment
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in which to raise children and he was concerned about night
disturbances, maintenance of the trash area possibility of
robbery and undesirable activities by children at night He
stated that the Alcoholic Beverage Control Board was considering
a law which would prohibit liquor stores within 100 feet of a
residence He suggested alternate uses of a professional office
building real estate office or single-family homes He read
a letter from Mr and Mrs Witte, 4016 Brighton Circle, whose
home adjoins the subject property, who opposed a liquor store
because of potential noise robberies and trash being dumped in
their yard
The following persons spoke in opposition to development of the
liquor store. Many of the speakers supported development of the
property to eliminate the eyesore but objected to a liquor store
The speakers expressed objection to potential noise at night
or from deliveries in the early morning, potential robberies,
congregation of kids at the store, traffic and parking problems,
devaluation of property values and interference with enjoyment
of individual properties and the park and pool to the east,
possibility of trash being thrown in the pool, the zero setback
on the east property line close proximity of the store to the
junior high school, and misrepresentation by the applicant
regarding the degree of opposition in the adjacent tract
Ms Nancy Peterson, 4026 Brighton Circle
Ms Nancy Crowder 4024 Selkirk Court
Mr Arnold Lowenberg, 4028 Cheshire Drive
Mr Mike Park, 9406 Cambridge Street
Ms. Monica Crockett, 4037 Cheshire Drive
Mrs. Vickie Evans 9326 Cambridge Street
Mr Ed Peterson, 4026 Brighton Circle
Ms Joyce Knight, 4020 Orange Avenue
The applicant responded to the comments. He felt a liquor store
would not harm the morals of children since moral training is
done at home and stated that while he does not believe in legis-
lating against the morals of people he does not believe in smut
He stated his store in Garden Grove is attractive and swept twice
a week He reported that in his 21 years in the liquor business
there has been only one robbery He felt the ABC Board should
determine the desirability of the store's distance from the schools
He stated most of the persons he spoke with did not object to the
store and that during the ten years the property has been vacant
residents could have suggested alternate uses
Chairman Van Allen stated the residents' petition did not conform
with the City's petition ordinance
Commissioner Mullen stated that he could not support the proposal
because of the overwhelming opposition by residents Commissioner
Partin suggested continuing the hearing to give the applicant a
chance to circulate a petition. He felt the testimony was not
the consensus of the neighborhood and did not represent a good
cross section Chairman Van Allen agreed with a continuance and
felt the applicant should have a chance to circulate a petition
Mrs Vickie Evans, 9326 Cambridge Street, stated the Commission
should make a decision based on testimony and not poll the audience
or take votes. She felt there was no need for a continuance
since hearing notices were mailed to interested property owners,
the homeowners expressed themselves and the applicant presented
his case.
Mr Arnold Lowenberg, 4028 Cheshire Drive, asked that the Com-
mission act tonight since it has the facts and nothing will be
gained with another petition
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Mr. Ed Peterson, 4026 Brighton Circle, stated that, in regard
to Commissioner Partin's comment that only the persons closest
to the subject property have spoken, the homeowners adjacent to
the property are most directly affected and their opinion should
carry more weight
It was moved by Commissioner Mullen and seconded by Commissioner
Friedmann to deny Conditional Use Permit #77-17 based on the
testimony regarding noise disturbance, close proximity of the
store to dwellings and schools, problem with increased traffic,
the zero setback, interference on the park and pool use, and
possibility of robbery with homes only 20 feet away.
Chairman Van Allen stated the project fails to give consideration
to the character of the neighborhood. He stated he could not
approve the front of the building as proposed and his objection
was to the large window area which he felt was unnecessary for
this type of store and is conducive to gawdy signs He stated
he was concerned with the building layout and parking and that
the variance makes the project undesirable as proposed Commis-
sioner Adler stated he did not oppose a use permit for a store
but he objected to the proposed layout
The motion unanimously carried by the following roll call vote•
AYES
NOES:
ABSENT
5 COMMISSIONERS. Adler, Friedmann, Mullen,
Partin & Van Allen
0 COMMISSIONERS• None
0 COMMISSIONERS None
The Planning Director stated there is a 15 day appeal period.
Chairman Van Allen closed the public hearing
CONTINUATION OF PUBLIC HEARING RE: AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING
ORDINANCE NO. 77-1 - CONDOMINIUM CONVERSIONS• Commissioner
Adler suggested that instead of basing the number of conversions
that would be permitted on a vacancy factor, the City establish
a ratio Chairman Van Allen felt it would be unfair to future
Commissions and City Councils to determine a ratio at this time
and stated if conditions change in the future the ordinance
can be amended
In response to Commissioner Adler, the Planning Director stated
the ordinance proposes a minimum of 400 square feet of open
space per unit, which can include patio areas and common recrea-
tion areas which is a more specific requirement than 35% as in
the current ordinance Commissioner Adler felt the requirements
for independent utilities and two one-hour firewalls should
remain in the ordinance and he stated he agreed with the ordinance
as written.
Mr. Mike Park, 9416 Cambridge Street, Cypress, stated he is in
the property management business and has been involved with
several apartment conversion projects He stated an existing
building cannot be rebuilt but to protect homeowners and the
integrity of plans certain requirements such as for open space
and parking can be imposed He felt certain requirements of
the ordinance which would require a developer to remove existing
plumbing or add the two one-hour firewalls and reduce the size
of the unit were an undue restraint on the private sector to
develop property to the highest and best use He stated a
program is available to developers where they can offer a one
year guarantee on the electrical and plumbing systems at a
nominal cost.
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Commissioner Mullen moved that the Planning Commission go on
record in favor of an ordinance which encourages the upgrading
of the housing stock through the conversion of apartments to
condominiums only where it is determined that the total stock
of apartments will not be lessened to the extent where it will
deprive any economic level from reasonable housing opportunities
or jeopardize the public health, safety and welfare.
Commissioner Mullen indicated that older apartment projects
may require special consideration in getting relief from certain
ordinance requirements such as guest parking or for the attached
garages The Deputy City Attorney advised the Commission that
it cannot prohibit conversions but it can place conditions for
approval of conversions She also cautioned them not to discuss
variances which may or may not he granted
Commissioner Mullen's motion was not seconded
Commissioner Partin moved a substitute motion to continue the
hearing to August 25 so that the Commission has sufficient time
to discuss the matter as the only agenda item The motion was
not seconded
Commissioner Friedmann felt the Commission was in general support
of the ordinance and that it should be referred back to the City
Council as is She felt since a majority of apartments in the
City would be unable to meet the ordinance requirements for con-
version it would not upset the housing balance Chairman Van
Allen supported referring the ordinance to the Council as it is
with the comments that the Commission is still satisfied with it
and that by including standards this would permit conversions
He stated he has heard no evidence to change the recommended
requirements and he stated deviations from the ordinance could
be handled through the variance procedure
It was moved by Commissioner Friedmann and seconded by Chairman
Van Allen to refer the condominium conversion ordinance to the
City Council as written with the statement that the Commission
agrees with allowing conversions if they comply with the ord-
inance provisions and that the Commission has reconsidered the
proposed standards and still recommends them
Commissioner Mullen felt the ordinance should have a provision
to provide relief especially for problems which may arise with
older apartments. The Planning Director stated the conversion
ordinance would be included in the Zoning Ordinance which provides
for relief through a variance
The motion unanimously carried by the following roll call vote•
AYES
NOES.
ABSENT:
5 COMMISSIONERS• Adler, Friedmann, Mullen,
Partin & Van Allen
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
Mr Recupero thanked the Commission for its consideration
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS: (Continued)
5 Review of proposed locations for additional bus benches
The staff presented a memorandum dated August 12 which outlined
locations where the Bench -Ad Company requested additional bus
benches
Chairman Van Allen recommended that the request for additional
benches be denied He felt that allowing bench advertising which
is not always maintained and does not enhance a neighborhood is
contrary to the strict signing requirements which the Commission
places on businesses
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It was moved by Chairman Van Allen seconded by Commissioner
Partin and unanimously carried to deny the request for additional
bus bench locations
Commissioner Adler requested that the staff provide a map showing
property locations with the staff reports
ADJOURNMENT. Chairman Van Allen adjourned the meeting at 2:15
a.m.
ATTEST:
CHAIRMAN OF THE PLANNING COMMISSION
SECRE RY OF THE •LANNING OMMISSION
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