Minutes 80-10-06MINUTES OF AN ADJOURNED REGULAR ~ETING
OF THE CYPRESS CITY COUNCIL
HELD
October 6, 1980
The adjourned regular meeting of the Cypress City Council was called to order
at 7:05 p.m. on Monday, October 6, 1980, in the auditorium of Patton Elementary
School, 6861 Santa Rita, Garden Grove, California, Mayor Vickie Evans presiding.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Councilmembers Coronado, Lacayo, Mullen, Rowan & Evans
None
Also present were Darrell Essex, City Manager/City Clerk, Orbrey Duke, Chief of
Police, Marvin DeCarlo, Director of Recreation & Parks, and Police Captain
Robertson.
PLEDCE OF ALLEGIANCE: Mayor Evans led the pledge to the flag.
Mayor Evans announced that the Council meeting was called in order for the resi-
dents in the vicinity of Peppertree Park to make the Council aware of the nature
of the problems they are experiencing. She asked if anyone in the audience wished
to speak.
Mr..Jack Smith, 6892 Reefton, Cypress, felt the greatest problem was speeding by
teenagers in the tract. He stated this is dangerous for small children at play
in the area. He reported the teens drink while riding their bicycles on the
street, and he felt the teens lived in the neighborhood. He stated the homeowners
are disgusted with the situation. He reported the Police have done a good job,
there has been improvement since the last neighborhood meeting, the teens have
slowed down, but they have also moved to another area so the problem has only
been relocated, not resolved. He reported the same group of about 15 teens is
involved. He felt a lack of discipline by parents was the problem. Mr. Smith
reported the teens blew out a light on his car, called him obscene names and
threatened to repeat the action. Mr. Smith indicated he would protect himself
if he has to on his own property. He reported some of the teens are from sur-
rounding cities, some from the neighborhood; it is not an organized gang. He
stated he felt some of their parents just did not care. Chief Duke stated the
Police Department knows many of the teens and several have alreody been to court
for offenses. He stated it is difficult to file charges regarding an unfit home
or parents not caring for their children.
~r. Joe Micus, 6797 Reefton, a homeowner in the area for nine years, felt the
speeding problem began after Reefton was opened up to the new Tempo tract.
He suggested the closure of Reefton at Scandia to stop cars from speeding around
the corner. He stated it is difficult to get the license number of speeding cars.
He reported he works at night and sleeps during the day and he hears car and
motorcycle noise all day long. ~lr. Micus reported the problem has improved with
the added police patrol. He stated the most critical time is when elementary
children get out of school; the speeding is dangerous for them. Councilman
Lacayo inquired about placing more stop signs in the area. Chief Duke reported
the Police Department conducted speed checks; the average speed was 30 mph and
that included speeding by adults, not only the teens. He indicated motorists
may not obey stop signs. He indicated traffic and speed counts were necessary
to determine the need for stop signs. He stated stop signs may increase noise
from cars which are squealing to a stop.
Mr. John Johnson, 6759 Tahiti, stated the speeding is dangerous for children at
play, they have no protection, lie suggested that warning reflectors be placed
in the street where it curves into Halawa.
Mrs. Lucy Troltsch, 11652 Luau Lane, reported there is speeding around the three
curved streets in her neighborhood and there are many parked cars on the street
which could be damaged. She reported parked cars have been hit by speeders.
Chief Duke reported that if a car is bit, the speeding driver will be cited after
the police report is reviewed by a Traffic Officer.
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Mrs. Irma Gamez, 6852 Reefton, reported that six months ago while driving down
the street at 10 mph a driver on the wrong side of the road hit her head-on.
She reported that during the last two weeks a neighbor had a bike stolen, another
had the real estate sign burned down, and her home has been vandalized. She
reported her children have been threatened and offered marijuana. She stated
it is unsafe for children to play at the park and at school.
Mrs. Trolt$ch inquired about the discontinuation of supervised recreation programs
at Peppertree Park during the summer. ~lr. DeCarlo reported that because of budget
cuts only five parks have three day per week supervision and this is provided
at parks which have the highest registration in youth sports activities. Mrs.
Troltsch stated the supervised activities maintained order in the park.
Mrs. Mary Crowder, 6881 Reefton, reported her cars have been damaged and one was
stolen. She recommended that a concrete island be placed in the center of the
street. Chief Duke responded that the installation of speed bumps creates a great
deal of liability for the City. He stated test results have shown that speed
bumps can cause a speeding motorist to lose control of the vehicle which could
turn over or smash into a house. He added the State has not authorized the use
of speed bumps except for test purposes. He reported that reflectors, such as
those used on freeeays, were tested by two states and following the tests they
were not installed. Regarding a concrete island, Chief Duke reported that one
was instal]ed on Los Altos Drive in Buena Park and, while it slowed cars down,
Buena Park felt it caused more accidents. Chief Duke reported that speeding and
reckless driving was their most frequently received complaint in the City and the
problem is not isolated to this neighborhood. He reported that a high school
program attempts to educate against speeding. Chief Duke reported that the
special police onit has kept records of the activities and has found that many
of the teens were coming from Garden Grove. He reported that several arrests
were made for possession of pot and alcohol by minors. Chief Duke stated he
would change the hours of the special patrol to the time when school is dismissed.
Mr. John Johnson reported that many homeowners had windows shot out with BB guns.
Chief Duke reported that the Police Department and Chamber of Commerce are working
on a program to eliminate the use of BB guns, that they are a common problem in
the City, and users will be arrested.
Mrs. Dot Ahrens, 11503 Halawa at the corner of Orangewood, reported the teens
use beer bottles to smash car windows, litter the neighborhood, and on weekends
drive down Orangewood and throw bottles on the wall. She stated they also line up
the bottles in the street and drive through them.
Mrs. Patty Spira, 6798 Leilani, stated Leilani is the only entrance to their
tract from Knott and cars race down Leilani daily, almost hourly. She reported
that motorists traveling down Luau towards Knott often do not look for traffic
coming down Leilani. She suggested that a yield or stop sign be placed at the
corner of Luau and Leilani. Mrs. Spira reported that the tract looks like a used
car lot with so many cars parked on the street, that Halawa is almost impassable
with cars parked on both sides, and she recommended that this area be red-zoned.
Mrs. Mary Nolan, 6741 Reefton, asked if curfew was being enforced by the police.
Chief Duke reported that if a minor is picked up there is no place to send him
or her and usually they are picked up by their parents from the Police station.
He stated minors are sent to juvenile court for vandalism offenses. He reported
the Police Department has one juvenile officer. Mrs. Nolan reported she has
called the Police Department because of frequent pot and alcohol parties at one
home which has no adult supervision and she asked why no citations are issued.
Chief Duke explained the procedure for handling minors arrested for alcohol and
marijuana offenses. He reported that many of the trouble-makers in the area are
not attending school. He stated that many citations are issued in this area and
six arrests were made in a two-week period. ~rs. Nolan asked what could be done
about unkept homes which are a public nuisance. The City Manager explained the
City's nuisance abatement procedures. He indicated the staff would check out the
problem residence on Reefton. ~rs. Nolan recommended that a City-wide clean-up
day be conducted to help residents dispose of large trash items.
I~s. Cheryl Chumley, 6859 Tahiti, reported the teens have been stealing and threat-
ening small children and some animals have been killed. She stated it appears the
homeowners are helpless if they cannot catch the teens in the act. She asked what
the Council intended to do about the problems and indicated there has been an
improvement during the last few weeks.
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Councilman Lacayo stated his suggestion would be to send a Police Officer to each
residence in the neighborhood to inform all families about the nature of the
problems, possibly with a pamphlet which identifies all the problems. He felt
this would isolate the problems and that peer pressure from the neighborhood
would be effective.
Councilman Coronado stated a unified effort between the Council and homeowners
was necessary. Ms. Chumley stated the homeowners need guidance. Councilman Rowan
felt Councilman Lacayo's suggestion would isolate the problems. He indicated he
would support legal action against the persons who are identified as the source
of problems.
Ms. Athena Crowder, 6881 Reefton, asked what could be done about damage to the park
and outdoor sexual activities at the park. The staff reported that two Park Rangers
work seven days a week and should check Peppertree Park nightly. Chief Duke
reported that since the teens are monitoring police calls the calls are now going
out by teletype. Chief Duke suggested that the neighbors organize a Neighborhood
Watch program. He reported there is a person in custody for burglaries in this
~rs. Yvette Garlock, 6815 Molokai, volunteered to organize a Neighborhood Watch
program.
Mrs. Trudy Smith, 6892 Reefton, reported the teens' attitude towards adults is
bad. She reported that one youth drives a motorcycle and a cadillac and has
terrorized other children; he uses obscenities and his parents do not seem to care.
~irs. Beverly Sidbough, 6782 Reefton, asked that Police Officers from both Cypress
and Garden Grove visit the schools and talk to the students.
Mr. Walt Zwonitzer, 6890 Tahiti, reported that the homeowners were awaiting this
meeting before proceeding with a Neighborhood Watch program. He felt it was up
to the parents to take care of their own families first, and supervise their own
teens if the problems are to be resolved. He recommended that the neighbors set
up a homeowners' association to deal with problems which could include the Neigh-
borhood Watch program, i~r. Zwonitzer stated homes in this area have been
devaluated because of the bad impressions of the weeds, trash and bottles. He
indicated there have been improvements on the street and in the park but the
problems will reoccur unless the homeowners cooperate with the City.
Mrs. Beverly Roll, 6828 Leilani, reported cars speed down Leilani, sometimes
three abreast. She reported there is a bad drug problem in the neighborhood,
kids smoke pot outdoors, and citizens have called the police twice regarding a
drug dealer who leaves the scene before the police arrive.
Mrs. Irma Gamez, 6852 Reefton, reported that for years Peppertree Park has not
looked attractive and the residents themselves had to make improvements and see
that the park is maintained.
Mr. John Johnson, 6759 Tahiti, reported one critical incident occurred when an
adult confronted one of the teens and he felt there would be more such incidents.
He stated the residents are tired of putting up with the behavior of the trouble-
makers.
Mrs. Troltsch, 11652 Luau Lane, supported Councilman Lacayo's suggestion for
house-to-house police visits and felt that persons not attending this meeting
would become aware of the problems. She reported that some parents are gone all
day long.
In response to a question, Chief Duke reported that the department has a list of
the speeders and speeders are being cited. He reported he will station radar
on Reefton tomorrow when school lets out. Councilman Lacayo inquired about the
possibility of barricading the entrances to the tract at Scandia and Sarco Streets
which enter from Garden Grove and he recommended that a questionnaire be sent out
inquiring how the residents feel about such barricading.
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Mrs. Joan Schlaich, 4225 Via Verde, Cypress, stated it appeared that racing was
the primary problem. She noted that while teens may not care about others they
do care about their cars and she suggested that speed bumps be installed. The
staff stated the liability to the City is very high with speed bumps.
bir. Herb Zell, 6965 Molokai, asked what the City's liability would be with speed
bumps and if Molokai could be posted for a 15 mph speed limit. Staff reiterated
their concern over the use of speed bumps. Chief Duke reported that State warrants
have established the speed limit on Molokai at 25 mph which the City must follow.
Councilman Lacayo suggested that staff investigate the use of raised dots on the
pavement to reduce speeds.
Mrs. Kathy Hufmeyer, 6809 Tahiti, reported she has seen stolen bikes taken away
in vans and she asked about laws relating to selling goods at swap meets. Chief
Duke reported that a police swap meet task force randomly checks the dealers at
swap meets for stolen goods.
Mrs. Mary Crowder, 6881 Reefton, stated the police cannot keep an eye on everything
and residents will have to get out themselves to see what is happening.
'~rs. Jeanette Santini, 6849 Tahiti, felt the homeowners association was a good idea
since the homeowners could solve some problems themselves. The staff advised that
they could assist in organizing the homeowners association.
It was moved by Councilman Mullen and seconded by Councilman Lacayo to direct
staff to investigate the problems and evaluate the suggestions made tonight
including those suggestions on traffic control devices and report back to the
Council with recommendations for implementation.
Mayor Evans stated the motion would address or provide for greater law enforcement
by the Police Department, the placement of radar in the neighborhood, activities
by the School Resource Officer, joint cooperation between the Cypress and Garden
Grove Police Departments to patrol after school closes, a police program to deal
with drugs and curfew, assistance by the staff in the Neighborhood Watch program,
investigation by the City's Zoning Enforcement Officer of nuisance conditions,
traffic control devices, possible supervised recreation activities at the park,
and need for crossing guards or parent volunteers. Mayor Evans requested that
staff prepare an article for the City newsletter in regard to encouraging children
not to walk in the streets but to use the sidewalks.
Mrs. Roll, 6828 Leilani, reported there is much traffic and bicycle congestion
at Hettinga School between noon and 1:00 p.m. when persons leave adult education
classes and children get out of school.
The Council requested that staff prepare its report for the October 27 Council
meeting.
The motion unanimously carried.
ADJOURNMENT: Mayor Evans adjourned the meeting at 9:30 p.m.
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