Minutes 1977-01-20MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF
THE CYPRESS PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD
January 20, 1977
The regular meeting of the Cypress Planning Commission was
called to order at 6:15 p.m. on Thursday, January 20, 1977
in the Cypress City Council Chambers, 5275 Orange Avenue,
Cypress, California, Chairman Gerald Mullen presiding.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Friedmann, Greenwood, Partin,
Van Allen & Mullen
None
Also present were Brian Hawley, Planning Director, Art Schat-
zeder, Public Works Director, Elizabeth Strauss, Deputy City
Attorney, and Don Lamm and Robert Kastenbaum, Assistant Planners.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Friedmann led the pledge
to the flag.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS:
1. Report from City Attorney regarding status of American
Pool, Patio and Nursery.
The Deputy City Attorney reported that the arraignment for Mr.
Jack James was continued from January 11 to January 25.
The Planning Director suggested that this item be continued
until such time as the staff has something further to report.
The Commission agreed to continue the matter.
2. Report on status of Midwood Manor.
The Planning Director reported that he had spoken with Mr.
Michael Park of Property Management Services, who reported
that the new Board of Directors met and decided to construct
a barrier across the front of the corner area to prohibit vehi-
cular access. They requested that the Commission continue
this matter to their first meeting in March so that the Board
may notify persons who presently use the area for parking and
assign them parking spaces elsewhere.
Chairman Mullen asked if anyone wished to speak regarding this
matter.
Mr. Powell, 10401 Santa Elise, Cypress, stated the proposal
by Midwood Manor is satisfactory to him but he questioned
whether they need a few months to assign other parking spaces.
He suggested that the matter be continued until February.
Commissioner Partin asked about the future use of the area if
it is blocked off. The Planning Director felt it could be
assumed from the original plot plan that this area was intended
to be an open landscaped area and he stated he would relate
this to the homeowners' association: that the blacktop should
be torn up and replaced with lawn area.
Commissioner Van Allen supported a continuance to the March 3
meeting provided that the homeowners' association submit plans
for the proposed landscaping of the area and plans for the
barrier. Commissioner Greenwood did not feel landscaping was
the major problem but that the area should be cleaned up
so that it cannot be used for vehicle repairs.
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It was moved by Commissioner Van Allen, seconded by Commis-
sioner Partin and unanimously carried to continue this matter
to the March 3 meeting, accept the proposal of the Midwood
Manor Homeowners' Association as submitted through Mr. Park, on
the condition that they submit plans for landscaping, including
a physical barrier, to restore the corner area.
3. Tentative Tract No. 9647 - MEB Investments.
The Planning Director presented Staff Report #77 -1 dated
January 13 and the tentative tract map which proposes the
subdivision of 1.7 acres into 29 lots for the establishment
of a 28 unit condominium project on the south side of Lincoln
Avenue, behind the Lincoln Plaza Shopping Center. The map
is being filed in conjunction with C.U.P. #76 -20.
Mr. Doug Powrie, representing the applicant, 3723 Birch,
Newport Beach, stated the density of the project has been
reduced from 35 to 28 units. He stated the Commission should
be familiar with the units since they are similar to previously
approved plans submitted by the same developer.
Commissioner Partin asked if the two trash areas were proposed
to serve the entire project. He felt there were located some
distance from several of the units and that more trash areas
should be provided. Mr. Powrie stated the plans were approved
by the Building Department and they were proceeding according
to their recommendations.
Mr. Hawley stated the building permits have not been issued
yet and the CC$R's have not been submitted to staff. He suggested
that individual trash pick -up be made a condition of the CCR's.
Commissioner Van Allen inquired about emergency access and
stated the tentative map indicates a solid wall on the east
end of street "C ". Mr. Hawley stated this requirement is
included in the conditions of approval of the conditional use
permit which are applicable to the map. Commissioner Van Allen
felt it should be indicated that, with approval of the map
which does not show the emergency access, the Commission is
not eliminating the requirement for emergency access.
Mr. Powrie stated he has been in contact with the adjacent
property owner and they are in the process of determining an
emergency access which is agreeable to both.
It was moved by Commissioner Van Allen, seconded by Commis-
sioner Greenwood and unanimously carried to approve Tentative
Tract Map #9647 subject to the following conditions:
1. All conditions of approval of Conditional Use Permit
#76 -20, as they relate to this Tentative Tract Map,
shall be satisfied as a condition of approval of this
application, except for the following revision:
Condition #23, as approved by the Planning Commission,
shall be revised to read: "Proposed Lot 1 shall be
located a minimum distance of thirty -three feet (33')
from the westerly property line, to provide adequate
clearance from the entrance road (proposed street "A ").
2. An effective sight distance for vehicular traffic shall
be maintained at the intersection of the driveway entrance
with Lincoln Avenue. No landscaping over thirty -six
inches (36 ") in height will be allowed in the area of
the curb returns. Also, adequate sight distance shall
be maintained within the development at all street and/
or walkway intersections to the satisfaction of the City
Engineer.
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3. Proposed Lot 10 shall be located a minimum distance of
five feet (5') from the easterly property line to provide
an adequate drainage easement for the parcels to the
north of this development.
It was moved by Commissioner Partin, seconded by Commissioner
Friedmann and unanimously carried to direct staff to make it
clear in the CCR's that the units shall have individual trash
pick -up service.
4. Discussion of location of trash enclosures for Conditional
Use Permit #76 -2, Eastern Pacific Development Company.
The Planning Director reported that one of the conditions of
approval of C.U.P. #76 -2 which provides for the establishment
of office buildings on the south side of Orange opposite the
Civic Center was that the landscaping and irrigation plans be
submitted for Planning Commission review and approval. The
applicant submitted final plans which showed the location of
two trash enclosure areas, at the southeast and southwest corners
of the property. The footings and foundations have been poured
at these locations. As a result of this, staff has been contacted
by neighbors who expressed opposition to the location of the
trash enclosures adjacent to the wall, which is located on
their property. Staff transmitted a letter from Mr. and Mrs.
Tomnay, 5335 Oxford, who asked that the trash containers be
moved away from the block wall or else moved five feet northerly.
They also suggested that landscaping be installed between the
block wall and trash containers. Their letter also expressed
concern that the lighting, if not shielded, will shine directly
onto their dwelling. The Planning Director presented photos
of the trash enclosure areas. He reported that staff reviewed
the lighting plans and found the light standards are the type
that direct light downward for a radius of 20 feet. They
will contain a shield on the southerly side which will prevent
direct rays from shining onto the single - family homes. This
was included as a condition of the C.U.P. On the landscaping
plans that were submitted, the Commission required extensive
landscaping treatment along the five- foot -wide strip between the
parking area and wall on the south property line including
several extra 15 gallon trees to provide screening. He outlined
several alternative actions for the Commission: (1) reaffirm
approval of the trash area locations; (2) require the developer
to find an alternate location (he pointed out that placing
them next to the buildings would be difficult because of a
3 to 4 foot grade difference between the parking and building
areas); or (3)staff's suggestion that the trash containers be
offset from the wall about five feet and that landscaping be
extended behind the containers consistent with landscaping
along the wall.
The following persons objected to the location of the trash
enclosures adjacent to the wall:
Mr. Andrew Erdaly, 5373 Oxford
Mr. Ken Cassidy, 5387 Oxford
Mr. Lewis Stewart, 5397 Oxford
Mr. Al Troncone, 5427 Oxford
Mr. Albert Hirota, 5347 Oxford
Mr. Ken Haraughty, 5323 Oxford
Mr. Frank Fazio, 5361 Oxford
Mr. Erdaly suggested that the enclosures be recessed into the
building, similar to the church down the street on Orange.
He felt the problem of dogs, cats, flies and ants will lower
their property values.
Mr. Cassidy reported he has a pool which attracts bugs and this
will worsen the problem.
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Mr. Stewart stated they have a problem with bugs and suggested
that the trash containers be placed in the buildings.
Mr. Troncone suggested that the City check the grades of the
properties. He felt the adjacent office project grade is higher
than his and that the trash bins will be visible over the wall.
Mr. Hirota felt that with modern conveniences available, something
like a trash compactor should have been considered. He felt
the trash truck may bump into the wall and cause damage. He
stated if the light standards are the same height as the wall
they will not create a problem.
Mr. Haraughty reported that while his neighbors, the Tomnays,
were on vacation the contractor knocked a hole in their wall
which is not yet repaired. He did not think five feet was
sufficient and felt the containers should be further from the wall.
Mr. Fazio felt the containers will attract bugs and create odor
and stated there is no privacy in his yard because of the three
story office buildings.
Several of the speakers stated they or their neighbors were not
notified of the public hearing on the C.U.P.
Mr. David Doremus, 4232 Garnet, Cypress, representing Eastern
Pacific Development, stated they were required and sent public
hearing notices to all property owners within 300 feet of the
property. He stated in designing the project, they recognized
that their property was 3 or 4 feet higher than that to the south
so they lowered the grade of the parking area and located the
buildings northerly adjacent to Orange Avenue to alleviate the
homeowners' concerns. The trash area is at the same grade as
the adjacent property and there is a five -foot wall, in some
cases 5'6 ", screening the trash area. He reported they reduced
the size of the buildings in order to provide 5 parking spaces
per thousand feet. He opposed relocating the trash area in the
parking area since cars cannot park in the area designated for
trash. He reported the opening on the trash enclosure is four -
feet -wide and will face the parking lot. Roll -out bins will be
used and the bins will be dumped on the trucks about 30 or 40
feet from the property line. He stated the developer met with
the property owners and as a result expanded the landscaping
along the south wall, and installed 39 15 gallon trees as a
buffer. He stated the project is not a market or restaurant
and the trash will be paper products, not food, therefore
creating no fly or odor problem. He stated the project will
not require two trash areas and that they proposed to use the
area at the southwest corner for dry storage, like office furni-
ture. The trash area at the southeast corner they propose to
serve this project and the project which develops to the east.
Mr. Doremus felt it would be costly to change the location of
the trash area at this point. He stated if the homeowner
desires they will repair the hole immediately. At the time
it occurred, the homeowner gave the developer permission to
repair the wall when the rest of the wall work is done for
the entire project. He stated the appearance of the buildings
is important since the rental of office space will be derived
from their attractiveness.
Chairman Mullen opened the public hearing regarding General
Plan Amendment #77 -1 and continued it until after this item.
In response to Commissioner Van Allen, Mr. Doremus stated
they will install curb bumpers within the trash enclosure on
three sides so that bins will not hit the wall.
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Commissioner Greenwood pointed out that the property owner who
lives behind the southwest trash enclosure has a tall hedge
at the rear of his property so should not experience any problems.
He felt some of the speakers' comments were conjecture. He
felt the type of trash will not attract bugs and the wall height
will not contribute to an invasion of privacy. He complimented
the developer on the building and landscaping and felt this is
one of the nicest projects in the City.
The Planning Director stated the developer complied with the
public hearing requirement to notify property owners within
300 feet. He presented an example of a public hearing notice
and stated notices are required to be mailed 10 days prior to
the hearing date. Because of staff's procedures notices are
usually mailed 12 to 13 days in advance. He stated that according
to the name and address labels in the file, notices were sent to
all of the persons who spoke tonight.
Chairman Mullen felt it would be unreasonable to change the
building design at this late time and stated construction is
in conformance with the C.U.P. approval. Commissioner Van Allen
pointed out that if the light standards are the same height as
the wall there would be a vandalism problem. If lights were
hit out, replacement would be expensive and there would be a
safety problem in the parking lot. The Public Works Director
stated the lights at Mervyn's are about the same height as those
proposed. When complaints were received, shields were added
and those residents found this satisfactory.
Commissioner Van Allen stated he did not hear any good alter-
natives suggested by the speakers. Mr. Stewart suggested that
paper shredders be used or that the paper be recycled and the
developer could make a profit.
Mr. Alex Bell, 9461 Grindlay, Cypress, stated they have two
bins against a wall and for the last five years there has
never been an insect problem. He felt the paper refuse won't
cause an odor and he stated they have no rule that trash be
placed in plastic bags.
Mr. Doremus stated they will provide once a night cleaning
service and that he was willing to accept a condition to the
C.U.P. that all trash be placed in closed, plastic bags.
He stated he would also accept a condition that the southwest
trash area will be used for dry storage only and that material
will not be visible above the wall. Regarding the future trash
area, he stated if there is a potential problem they can install
landscaping between the containers and wall.
Mr. Haraughty felt there may be a legal problem for the devel-
oper to use the property owners' wall as the rear for the trash
enclosure. As an alternative, he recommended that the containers
be moved five feet from the wall with landscaping in between.
It was moved by Chairman Mullen and seconded by Commissioner
Greenwood to add a condition to C.U.P. #76 -2 to require that
all trash which is generated from the office buildings be
disposed of in closed, plastic bags, and another condition
that the facility at the southwest corner of the property be
redesignated as a dry storage area with no stored materials
to be visible above the wall, and a condition requiring that
curb bumpers be installed on three sides within the trash
enclosure area.
Chairman Mullen felt the motion provides some mitigating relief
for the problem. He stated the requirements of development were
met and the Commission must assume the public hearing notices
were sent. There was further discussion regarding the public
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hearing notice requirement. Staff indicated notices are mailed
to the property owners, who may not necessarily be the tenants
on the property. Mr. Erdaly stated the procedure needs changing.
The motion carried with Commissioner Partin abstaining. Com-
missioner Partin stated he abstained because he was unfamiliar
with the background of the situation and the action tonight.
RECESS: Chairman Mullen called a recess at 8:40 p.m. The
meeting was called back to order at 8:53 p.m. with all Commis-
sioners present.
PUBLIC HEARING RE: GENERAL PLAN AMENDMENT NO. 77 -1 - LINCOLN
AVENUE: Chairman Mullen announced that this was the time and
place for the public hearing to consider a proposal to amend
the Land Use Element of the General Plan to provide for a
new classification for certain properties along Lincoln Avenue
which would permit the establishment of a variety of land uses
in conjunction with the development of commercial projects.
The proposed new classification would apply only to those
properties currently designated for Highway Commercial uses
and having lot depths in excess of 200 feet. Chairman Mullen
reopened the hearing and asked for staff's report.
The Planning Director reported that hearing notices were given
in accordance with legal requirements and in this case were
also mailed to all businessmen along Lincoln since they are
directly affected. He read Staff Report #77 -2 dated January
13 describing the proposal of the Lincoln Avenue Action Com-
mittee for the redesignation of those properties with frontage
on Lincoln Avenue which have depths in excess of 200 feet, are
located between Bloomfield and Holder Streets, from their
highway commercial classification to a classification which
will provide for the establishment of a variety of urban uses
in conjunction with commercial development. The only properties
not in the CH Zone are: Forest Lawn, Hyatt Die Cast f Engineering,
Lincoln Center Mobilehome Park, and Tara Village apartments.
The Planning Director stated the Lincoln Avenue Action Committee's
recommendation regarding the problem of deep lot development is
the final phase of the implementation program of the Lincoln
Avenue Study. Deep lots were identified as those lots having
excessive depth in relation to width and are typical of most
properties on Lincoln. The commercial properties on Lincoln
have varying depths ranging between 100 to over 650 feet. He
presented a map showing the parcels on Lincoln. Mr. Hawley
stated the lots which do not present a problem are those about
100 feet deep which are located between,Grindlay and the PERR.
He stated the problem with the deep commercial parcels is that
commercial development has occurred towards the front of the
parcel adjacent to Lincoln and the rear portions are left in a
vacant, unused state having little or no value for commercial
purposes. The lots are stagnated by a zone classification
which permits nothing but basic commercial uses. The Committee
felt that assigning a zone classification, particularly commer-
cial, with no consideration for lot configuration, site location
or market demand is illogical and unreasonable and denies use
of the property to the owners. The Committee discussed alter-
native solutions with the Industrial /Commercial Development
Commission and the Committee's final recommendation was that
the frontages of parcels should be retained for commercial
use with a minimum 200 foot depth for commercial and the remainder
of the parcel should be reclassified to a zoning category per-
mitting any urban use subject to a conditional use permit. The
Committee recommended a combining zone for the entire parcel
for properties along Lincoln. The Committee felt a 200 foot
depth is more practical for commercial development but to ensure
development of the commercial portion, the developer should
submit a complete planning program which includes a condition
or stipulation that the commercial will be developed in con-
junction with development of the remaining portion. They felt
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many uses could be encouraged and the proposal is not a blanket
authorization for residential development since many properties
are not conducive to having residential at the rear of commer-
cial use. To implement the proposal, the Committee recommended
that the General Plan Land Use Element text be amended to
provide for a combining zone which would permit a variety of
urban uses along Lincoln; and that the Zoning Ordinance text
be amended to conform with the General Plan, to establish the
purpose and requirements of the combining zone and to designate
the individual parcels along Lincoln where the classification
could be applicable.
Mr. Alex Bell, chairman of the Lincoln Avenue Action Committee,
9461 Grindlay Street, stated he had nothing to add to the report.
He stated the Committee's recommendations were unanimous, made
with a 6 -0 vote. He complimented the staff for their over-
whelming assistance and cooperation.
Chairman Mullen asked if anyone wished to speak in favor.
Mr. Ken Hulse, 5158 Cumberland Drive, Cypress, felt it was a
fine plan and will help facilitate development along Lincoln.
He agreed with limiting the front 200 feet to highway commer-
cial use and that the remainder of the property should be able
to develop with another use to enhance the development process.
Mr. Gleason, 100 Atlantic, Long Beach, asked if the intent of
the rezoning was to allow other uses of the property in addi-
tion to highway commercial. Staff advised him this was the
intent.
Chairman Mullen asked if anyone wished to speak in opposition.
No one wished to speak in opposition.
Commissioner Partin asked if the proposal would eliminate the
process of a zone change and General Plan amendment for prop-
erties on an individual basis and staff answered it would.
Mr. Hawley stated that the rear portions of property would not
have to be rezoned since the entire parcel would be in a com-
bining zone which would permit other than commercial use on
the rear portion. He stated if a developer wished to develop
only the rear portion for residential, it would be the Commis-
sion's responsibility to determine the assurances they need
or feel desirable for total development under a C.U.P.
Mr. Bell pointed out several advantages to the proposal: chances
for viable commercial projects on lots 400 to 600 feet deep
are remote and a developer would be taking a major economic
gamble in preparing plans and a presentation in seeking a zone
change. He stated it is not worth it to a developer when there
are other lots available bordering a major highway which can be
purchased for about the same price. The property owners would
be able to develop and receive the profit they're entitled to;
the proposal would allow development of the entire property as
a master planned project and development features of the rear
and front would be compatible.
Chairman Mullen complimented the Committee, Chamber of Commerce
and staff on their work and Commissioner Greenwood stated he
was highly in favor of the proposal since it would result in
improvement of Lincoln which has not changed dramatically for
many years. Commissioner Van Allen stated that development
of the Warmington property could have been handled more easily
under this procedure and stated it was fortunate that develop-
ment is in conformance with this proposal. He felt the
Commission should not give carte blanche to any urban use but
that the urban use, in conjunction with commercial, should be
subject to a conditional use permit. He recommended that this
requirement be stated in the General Plan text. The Planning
Director supported this recommendation and stated the specifics
could be outlined in the Zoning Ordinance.
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Mr. Ken Hulse, 5158 Cumberland Drive, asked if there was a way
to require a developer to develop the entire property in the
event a developer came in wishing to develop only the rear.
Chairman Mullen felt this would be decided in each individual
application and that the City would retain the right to permit
development of only the rear portion or permit it only in
conjunction with simultaneous development of the commercial
portion. Commissioner Van Allen felt that in light of the
Commission's and Council's actions over a period of time he
did not feel it would be likely that a developer could convince
them to permit residential development on the rear while leaving
the front undeveloped.
It was moved by Commissioner Van Allen and seconded by Com-
missioner Friedmann to approve General Plan Amendment #77 -1
to revise that section of the General Plan text dealing with
Special Treatment Area to provide for the establishment of any
urban use subject to the issuance of a conditional use permit
in conjunction with a commercial project on parcels of land
along Lincoln Avenue having depths in excess of 200 feet.
The motion unanimously carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
5 COMMISSIONERS: Friedmann, Greenwood, Partin,
Van Allen $ Mullen
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
It was moved by Commissioner Greenwood, seconded by Commis-
sioner Friedmann and unanimously carried to recommend that the
City Council initiate the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance
to implement General Plan Amendment #77 -1.
Chairman Mullen closed the public hearing.
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It was moved by Commissioner Greenwood, seconded by Commis-
sioner Partin and unanimously carried to approve the January
6, 1977 minutes.
The Planning Director reported that at the January 17 City
Council meeting, the Council approved Tentative Tract Map
#9593 for the nine -unit condominium project on Graham Street
but expressed concern over the method by which the applicant
requested the conversion from apartments to condominiums.
They requested that the Planning Commission and staff consider
the establishment of standards for such conversions. The
Planning Director stated staff is in the process of preparing
an ordinance establishing such standards and that he would
present the Commission with a transcript of the Council's
discussion.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: There were no oral communications pre-
sented at this time.
Commissioner Van Allen stated the Commission should be aware
of applicants who come before the Commission and purport to
have a communication from the company headquarters office, as
the recent occurrence with the 7- Eleven application when the
applicant stated he had a letter from the Texas office which
stated the freestanding sign had to remain uniform and could
not be lowered in height. Chairman Mullen stated he saw in
another city a freestanding sign for a shopping center and
only a small 7- Eleven logo on the building and Commissioner
Van Allen stated he saw a 7- Eleven sign which was low - level,
slumpstone.
ADJOURNMENT: Chairman Mullen adjourned the meeting at 10:00 p.m.
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