Minutes 1975-11-20MINUTES OF A REGULAR MEETING OF
THE CYPRESS PLANNING COMMISSION
HELD
November 20, 1975
The regular meeting of the Cypress Planning Commission was
called to order at 4:30 p.m. on Thursday, November 20, 1975
in the Cypress City Council Chambers, 5275 Orange Avenue,
Cypress, California, Vice Chairman Gerald Mullen presiding.
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Greenwood, Mullen, Van Allen
and Walsh
Chairman Hart
Also present were Planning Director Brian Hawley, Building
Superintendent Ray Warren, and Civil Engineering Assistant
Frank Dalesandro.
RECESS:
Commissioner Mullen recessed the meeting to the Administrative
Conference Room.
ADMINISTRATIVE MATTERS:
At the Planning Director's request, the following item was
added to the agenda:
1. Preliminary Proposal for FY 1976/77 A.H.F.P. Projects.
The Civil Engineering Assistant presented a report from the
Public Works Director dated November 17 and described the
three street improvement projects proposed to be submitted
for Arterial Highway Financing Program funding in 1976/77
which included Valley View Street from Lincoln to Orange and
from Belle Avenue to Cerritos Avenue; Ball Road from 130'
east of to 800' west of Juanita Street; and the intersection
of Orange Avenue and Grindlay Street. He reported that
improvements of Valley View Street from Cerritos to the
Stanton Channel and Katella Avenue from 660' west of to
340' east of Valley View would be submitted as an FAU funding
project. The Planning Commission was requested to determine
whether the projects are in conformance with the General
Plan.
Following a review of the projects, it was moved by Commis-
sioner Van Allen, seconded by Commissioner Walsh and unani-
mously carried to approve a resolution finding that the
FY 1976/77 Arterial Highway Financing Program projects are
in conformance with the Cypress General Plan.
Commissioner Mullen called the meeting back to order in the
Council Chambers at, 4:55 p.m.
2. Presentation by Orange County Health Department regarding
Noise Ordinance.
The Planning Director introduced Mr. Ellwyn Brickson of the
Orange County Health Department. Mr. Brickson made a visual
presentation describing the criteria used to determine noise
impact on communities. He discussed the County's procedure
under the Noise Ordinance for handling noise complaints.
The Commission recessed to the parking lot for a demonstration
of noise monitoring equipment.
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CHAIRMAN HART ARRIVED AT 5:10 P.M.
RECESS:
The meeting was recessed at 6:00 p.m.
CALL TO ORDER:
Chairman Hart called the meeting back to order at 7:35 p.m.
in the Cypress City Council Chambers with the following
Commissioners in attendance:
PRESENT:
ABSENT:
Commissioners Greenwood, Mullen, Van Allen,
Walsh and Hart
None
Also present were Brian Hawley, Planning Director, Art
Schatzeder, Public Works Director, Sandy Pegueros, Business
License /Zoning Inspector, and Roger Grable, Deputy City
Attorney.
PLEDGE OF ALLEGIANCE: Commissioner Greenwood led the pledge
to the flag.
MINUTES:
It was moved by Commissioner Greenwood, seconded by Commis-
sioner Walsh and unanimously carried to approve the November
6, 1975 minutes as corrected.
ORAL COMMUNICATIONS: Chairman Hart inquired if anyone
wished to speak in regard to any matter not on the agenda.
No one wished to speak at this time.
PUBLIC HEARING RE: AMENDMENT TO THE ZONING ORDINANCE #75 -2:
Chairman Hart announced that this was the time and place for
the public hearing to consider a proposed amendment to the
Zoning Ordinance and amendment to the Specific Plan for the
improvement of Lincoln Avenue. Said amendment is a proposal
to consider the establishment of a new building setback
regulation for properties along Lincoln Avenue in the CH-
Commercial Highway Zone. Chairman Hart opened the public
hearing and asked for the staff's report.
The Planning Director introduced Mr. Alex Bell, chairman
of the Lincoln Avenue Action Committee. Mr. Bell summarized
a report from the Committee which outlined their findings
regarding the present 25 foot setback requirement for
properties along Lincoln Avenue. The original Committee
members recommended that the existing 25 foot setback
requirement in the CH Zone be amended to provide for a
variable setback ranging from a minimum of 6 feet to a
maximum of 10 feet; and that the existing street improve-
ment program which currently requires the installation of
a 12- foot -wide sidewalk as a condition of approval for all
new developments be amended to require the installation of
only a 6- foot -wide sidewalk with the remaining 6 feet of
public right -of -way to be included in the landscape program.
The Planning Director also transmitted a letter to the
Planning Commission dated November 13 from the group of
Lincoln Avenue businessmen and property owners addressing
the matter of setbacks. They recommended that the 12 foot
sidewalk requirement be reduced to 6 feet, that the vacated
6 feet be used for landscaping, and that there be no further
setback requirement.
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Commissioner Greenwood asked for clarification of the set-
back requirement as it applies to existing buildings.
Mr. Bell explained that the setback requirement would apply
only to newly constructed buildings, or to existing buildings
which have been demolished and rebuilt. He said it would
not apply to a structure which is remodeled or has additions
made.
Commissioner Mullen inquired if the City had the authority
to abate a non - conforming use which has no front setback area.
The Deputy City Attorney advised that the City could require
the removal of non - conforming buildings which do not meet
the setback requirement by establishing an amortization period.
Mr. John Theisins, one of the members of the expanded
Committee and representing a business at 4872 Lincoln,
Cypress, read the November 13 letter from the Lincoln
property owners and businessmen which was signed by 35
individuals. He stated that the new Committee members
tried to make all Lincoln businessmen and property owners
aware that the setback requirement did not apply to existing
buildings.
Chairman Hart inquired if anyone wished to speak in favor of
Zoning Ordinance Amendment #75 -2. No one wished to speak in
favor. He asked if anyone wished to speak in opposition.
Dr. Ira Pomeroy, 5651 Lincoln, Cypress, one of the members
of the expanded Lincoln Avenue Action Committee, indicated
there were problems with the scheduling of the Committee's
meetings. He stated his building would not be affected by
the 25 foot setback requirement and he stated that at
meetings of the Lincoln businessmen and property owners it
was pointed out that the setback requirement would not
apply to existing buildings. He supported limiting the
setback to 12 feet, 6 feet for the sidewalk, and 6 feet
for landscaping. He felt a greater setback would not be
convenient for lots with a shallow depth. He stated that
if a structure is rebuilt it might require a variance which
could be denied.
Mr. Z. R. Wall, 2427 N. Santiago Avenue, Santa Ana, Calif-
ornia, asked who would be responsible for installation of
the street improvements and if the Lincoln Avenue regula-
tions would apply to properties on Lincoln within County
islands. He also inquired about the type of landscaping
which would be required.
The Planning Director advised him that costs for improvements
in the public right of way would be shared by the City,
County and State but that improvements on private property
would be the responsibility of the property owner or developer.
He stated there was no uniform landscaping proposed and
he pointed out the different landscaping programs at the
Lincoln Plaza shopping center, Systems Reefer, Inc., and
the shopping center at the southwest corner of Walker
and Lincoln. The Planning Director indicated it was the
intent to encourage properties in County islands to conform
to the Lincoln Avenue regulations. He reported that after
final decisions are made regarding the setbacks, signing,
and amendment to the Zoning Ordinance to allow a greater
flexibility in uses, the City would attempt to get concurrence
from the City of Buena Park and County. He stated the
response of both of these agencies so far has been favorable.
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Mr. C. E. Brabyn, 4515 Fairfield, Corona del Mar, California,
co -owner of property at the northwest corner of Moody and
Lincoln, asked if a uniform landscaped setback was estab-
lished. He stated he supported a variable setback based on
lot depth and felt 6 feet would be adequate.
The Planning Director advised that the Zoning Ordinance
requires a 25 foot landscaped setback and that the subject
of this public hearing is whether that setback requirement
should be reduced.
There were no other persons wishing to speak and Chairman
Hart closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Greenwood felt whatever action is taken would
result in an improvement of the present condition of Lincoln
and would increase property values, upgrade the street, and
change a blighted area to a viable area more in keeping with
the affluence of the rest of the City. He stated the City
did not wish to impose hardships on the property owners but
wished to establish guidelines for future development. He
stated he agreed with the property owners and supported the
6 foot sidewalk and 6 foot setback standard. He felt a
property owner could have a greater setback if he desired.
Commissioner Mullen felt that shoppers demand an environment
which is aesthetically pleasing and one in which they feel
safe and comfortable and he felt improvements on Lincoln
were necessary in order for Lincoln businesses to compete
with attractive shopping centers in the area and to keep
Cypress tax dollars in the community. He felt a progres-
sive rather than outdated appearance was necessary for
the strip to be economically viable. He pointed out
Hawaiian Gardens as a city which has expended funds to
improve the appearance of its business district in order
to impress and attract shoppers.
Commissioner Van Allen felt the problem on Lincoln was
that the size of lot development was not uniform. He
felt businesses should be encouraged to show individualism
to avoid a uniform appearance along Lincoln. He stated
that it appeared some businessmen felt having no setback
would result in a profitable business while imposing a
setback requirement would result in bankruptcy. Commissioner
Van Allen felt there should not be a maximum set for the
setback requirement and that a developer should be able
to provide more than 10 feet.
The Planning Director stated this would be clarified in the
ordinance so that developers are not restricted by a 10 foot
maximum requirement.
Commissioner Walsh stated she supported the minimum 6 foot,
maximum 10 foot or greater setback requirement. She felt
improvement of the appearance of Lincoln was necessary to
attract shoppers and she felt other shopping areas in the
City, like at Valley View and Ball, are successful because
they are attractive. She felt the businesses were unattractive
and difficult to enter and this contributed to the deteriora-
ting condition along Lincoln.
Chairman Hart stated he supported the recommendation of the
original Lincoln Avenue Action Committee since he felt they
were taking a moderate and liberal stand on the issue of
improving Lincoln, their recommendations excluded existing
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properties, they took into consideration the characteristics
of adjacent properties, they provided a variance procedure
for unusual circumstances, and they provided guidelines
for future development and improvement of the City.
It was moved by Commissioner Mullen and seconded by Commis-
sioner Van Allen to approve the recommendation of the original
Lincoln Avenue Action Committee regarding the setback require-
ment with the provision that a setback beyond the maximum
10 feet be allowed and to recommend that the City Council
approve the amendment to the Zoning Ordinance. The motion
carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
4 COMMISSIONERS: Mullen, Van Allen, Walsh
and Hart
1 COMMISSIONERS: Greenwood
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
PUBLIC HEARING RE: CONDITIONAL USE PERMIT #75 -11, TIC TOC
SYSTEMS /UTOTEM: Chairman Hart announced that this was the
time and place for the public hearing to consider a proposed
conditional use permit to install, operate and maintain self -
service gasoline dispensing equipment in conjunction with
the existing Utotem (formerly Tic Toc) market located at
6021 Orange Avenue, Cypress. He declared the hearing open
and asked for the staff's report.
The Planning Director summarized Staff Report PC #75 -20 dated
November 14, 1975 describing the proposed use. The staff
recommended approval subject to 12 conditions.
Chairman Hart asked if the applicant wished to speak.
Mr. Larry Wasserman, 8647 Navajo, San Diego, California,
representing the applicant, discussed the expansion activities
of Fairmont Foods Company to acquire Tic Toc markets in the
Southern California area. He indicated that there are 39
Utotem stores in the San Diego area, 27 with gas pumps. He
stated the stores are all company -owned and are not franchised.
He stated the Utotem markets attempted to sell gas at a
cost savings but did not provide air, water or other services.
Mr. Wasserman stated the applicant was taking a count
of traffic visiting the store on Orange and the applicant
felt there was a low volume of traffic which would not
present any parking problems. He stated the applicant
agreed with all conditions of approval.
Mr. Donald Hudson, 6153 Lawrence Street, Cypress, asked for
a copy of the staff report and conditions of approval for the
application.
Chairman Hart asked if anyone wished to speak in favor. No
one wished to speak in support. He asked if anyone wished
to speak in opposition.
Mr. Dave Webb, operator of the Union Oil gas station at
the corner of Valley View and Orange Avenue, stated he
did not feel there was a need for the addition of gas
pumps because of the proximity of other stations. He
stated his station was the most competitive on Valley
View and kept gas prices at a minimum for self- service gas
and also provided auto repair service. He did not feel
another gas station would attract more business or generate
more revenue to the City. He questioned the safety of auto-
matic gas pumps and stated the markets usually do not have
an attendant watching the pumps and this could cause problems
if persons leave their cars running or dispense gas into
containers. He stated the parking lot in the center was
usually fully occupied and he did not feel there would be
sufficient room for the maneuvering of filling trucks.
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The Deputy City Attorney reminded the Commission that the
issue of competition or regulating the number of stations
or prices would not be a legitimate concern of the Commission.
The Planning Director reported that the Traffic Engineer
had reviewed the plans and had expressed concern over the
three or four middle parking stalls. The Traffic Engineer
felt that, even though the parking met requirements, some
caution would be required in the lot.
Mr. Mel Roberts, 5894 Apia Drive, Cypress, operator of the
Shell Station at the northeast corner of Valley View and
Orange, stated he felt there was an existing parking problem
at the shopping center lot which was always two - thirds full
and often entirely full. He stated patrons of the stores
already park on his property. He also felt that if there
are problems at the gas pumps, one attendant in the store
would be unable to leave the cash register to assist. He
stated that although parking would be provided at the rear
of the store there is no rear access to the building. He
did not feel that the market would be able to sell gas at
much more of a discount than his station.
Mr. Dave Webb, operator of the Union Oil station, asked
if the other businessmen in the satellite stores were notified
of the hearing on this application. The Planning Director
indicated that the property owners were notified but the
businessmen may not have been notified of the hearing.
Mr. Don Hudson, 6153 Lawrence, Cypress, asked if the store
was located in the Civic Center Overlay Zone. The Planning
Director stated it was not. Mr. Hudson stated he lived
within three blocks of the store and that he was concerned
over the rundown appearance of the store. He stated he
had no objections to the addition of gas pumps and that he
welcomed the improvements to the appearance and quality of
the store front especially since the store faces new homes.
Mr. Larry Wasserman, the applicant, felt their log of traffic
would substantiate that there is a low traffic volume visit-
ing the store and that no traffic problems would be created.
He suggested that the pump island and landscaped strip could
be moved farther south towards the street to provide more
room in the parking lot. Mr. Wasserman stated that the
applicant planned to sell regular and unleaded gas.
He indicated that the applicant may consider installing
a third pump to sell premium as well but they preferred two
pumps.
Commissioner Van Allen asked if the building improvements
and addition of landscaping were tied into approval of
the gas pumps. Mr. Wasserman stated that the applicant had
attempted to upgrade the image of the store in general and
keep it cleaner. He stated it was restocked and the interior
was painted. He stated the applicant did not own the property
and he did not feel the applicant would be interested in
additional landscaping if the pumps were denied but they
would maintain the property as part of their general program.
Chairman Hart closed the public hearing.
Commissioner Walsh stated she opposed installation of the
gas pumps because of the lack of adequate parking and
turning area. She felt the traffic flow in the area was
heavy at all times, with a lot of traffic generated from
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Cypress College. She stated the only type of improvements
she would approve would be a gas dispensing hose similar
to air and water hoses which she has seen in operation in
Arizona. Commissioner Walsh felt the applicant was threat-
ening the Commission by agreeing to install the landscaping
only on condition that the pumps are approved.
Commissioner Mullen felt there was a growing trend with
convenience markets and dairies selling self- service gas and
offering no other automotive services and he felt the resi-
dents of Cypress were entitled to this option within their
own city. He felt that most self - service islands were
equipped with automatic shut -off devices in case of rupture
of the hose. Commissioner Mullen stated he supported the
application. He felt a condition should be added requiring
the landscaping and pump island to be located closer to the
street. Commissioner Mullen did not feel there would be a
parking problem since he felt persons stoppped at convenience
markets for only a few minutes.
Commissioner Greenwood stated he did not feel there would
be a safety problem and that the use was subject to regu-
lations of the Fire Marshal. He did not feel the oper-
ation would seriously compete with the nearby gas stations
since they also provide gas on a no service basis.
Commissioner Van Allen expressed concern that the Commission
did not have a definite plan of the pump island design or
how many pumps were involved and that the operators of the
other satellite stores were not notified of the hearing. He
suggested that the hearing be reopened and continued.
It was moved by Commissioner Van Allen and seconded by Com-
missioner Mullen to reopen the public hearing and continue it
to the next meeting and request that the staff notify the
operators of the satellite stores of the hearing and that the
applicant make a determination as to the type of gas pumps
he wishes to install.
Commissioner Mullen stated he was in favor of the proposal.
He did not feel the applicant's remarks should be taken as
a threat since he felt the applicant was exercising an option
to invest in improvement of the property. He did not feel
businessmen were obligated to citizens to invest money to
improve their property if their developments complied with
development standards. He did not feel that a differently
designed gas pump should be imposed as a condition on a
specific application or that the Commission should determine
what a business may or may not sell.
Chairman Hart stated he was not in favor of continuing the
hearing since he felt the type of gas and location of pumps and
landscaping could be reviewed by the Commission at the time
final plans are submitted for design review.
Commissioner Greenwood felt the operators of the satellite
stores should have been notified of the hearing and he also
requested data regarding the traffic volumes on the arterial
streets in the area.
Chairman Hart reopened the public hearing on C.U.P. #75 -11.
The motion carried by the following roll call vote:
AYES:
NOES:
ABSENT:
4 COMMISSIONERS: Greenwood, Mullen, Van
Allen and Walsh
1 COMMISSIONERS: Hart
0 COMMISSIONERS: None
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PUBLIC HEARING RE: VARIANCE #75 -1, MR. & MRS. RAY GUZMAN:
Chairman Hart announced that this was the time and place for
the public hearing to consider a proposed variance to
construct a six - foot -high masonry wall within the front yard
setback area at 10488 Santa Clara, Cypress. He opened the
public hearing and asked for the staff's report.
The Planning Director summarized Staff Report PC #75 -21 dated
November 17 which described the applicant's proposal to
construct a six - foot -high masonry wall in his front yard to
alleviate the excessive noise disturbance. He presented a
plot plan and colored rendering of the wall.
Chairman Hart asked if the applicant wished to speak.
Mr. Ray Guzman, 10488 Santa Clara, Cypress, the applicant,
stated the noise condition caused mental stress to members
of his family and that the noise level has been increasing.
He stated that several neighbors did not have the same noise
problems because of high walls on their properties. He
stated that he applied for a building permit about 18 months
ago but was unable to proceed with the wall because of finan-
cial constraints. Mr. Guzman described his plans to construct
a hollow, slumpstone sound barrier along the front property
line.
Chairman Hart inquired if anyone wished to speak in favor of
or in opposition to Variance #75 -1. There was no one who
wished to speak in support or opposition and Chairman Hart
closed the public hearing.
It was moved by Commissioner Greenwood and seconded by
Commissioner Walsh to approve Variance #75 -1 subject to
the following conditions and the finding that the wall
construction is in conformance with Section 17.3 -7 of
the Zoning Ordinance:
1. The proposed wall shall be constructed in confor-
mance with the plot plan and elevation as reviewed
and approved by the Planning Commission.
2. Landscaping between the proposed wall and the side-
walk shall be installed as indicated on the plans
and elevations.
3. All required permits shall be obtained in accordance
with the specifications of the Building Department.
The motion unanimously carried by the following roll call
vote:
AYES: 5 COMMISSIONERS: Greenwood, Mullen, Van
Allen, Walsh and Hart
NOES: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
ABSENT: 0 COMMISSIONERS: None
The Commission agreed to continue Item #2, design review
for the proposed conversion of the abandoned ARCO service
station at the northwesterly corner of Walker and Cerritos,
and Item #3, discussion of City street sweeping policy, to
the next meeting.
EXECUTIVE SESSION:
Chairman Hart called an Executive Session for personnel
matters at 10:20 p.m. The meeting was called back to order
at 10:30 p.m. with all Commissioners present.
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ADJOURNMENT:
Chairman Hart adjourned the meeting at 10:30 p.m. to Thursday,
December 4 at 4:00 p.m.
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